[FSUG-Bangalore] Fwd: Can you present on technical topics on GNU/Linux

[renuka prasad]

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From: renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Can you present on technical topics on GNU/Linux
To: Vikram Vincent <vincentvikram at gmail.com>
Cc: Senthil S <senthilsos at yahoo.com>


OK VIKRAM

i am not interested in these issues
i have no opinions about these kind of issues
i don't want to spend time on these kind of issues

what i have understood is that There is one movement called free software
movement initiated by RMS, and later people who have accepted his philosophy
, his thought , his ideas , ------------- mainly freedom are carrying on
thats it .

whether it is under banner of fsf or fsf india or FSUG bangalore --- or some
XYZ banner will that really matter -- atleast for me it does not matter,

who ever conducts with the interest of giving freedom to the users of
softwares -- i am very happy to be part of it and will be always part of it


As quoted by RMS in his talks ------- no user should be made dependent on
anyone for anything --

-------------- Senthil initiated ----------- very good ------ you intiate
something very good -------------- to my understanding i am really not
interested about who has initiated
-------------- every one fighting for freedom is equally important and are
equally good --

Initiation has already happened --- so i am not so interested that who has
initiated
------------------ leave all these ----------------- does this really
matter??????????/

VIKRAM ----- i think ieee is utilizing the avalable resources from free
softwares community since we have to promote or create awareness -- -we are
also using their banner

you are telling that we cannot take free software to places --------------
What is this ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
you are talking -- please rethink on this ------

without ieee help free softwares have reached every one ___ 80 percent of
internet is running on free softwares - did ieee come somewhere -

it was RFC's ( Request for comments )  whcih made so many protocols avalable
to developers and contributors -- otherwise we would have not been
communicating at all the way today world is

I whole heartedly welcome to the idea of using  ieee banner  ---- provided
let them release all their contents under GPL ---- will they --- ?????

still --- it is good that their is a track now ( track means like there are
many tracks in ieee about research , general talk --so on ans so forth )
which is interested in free software is good

------------------------ FREE SOFTWARES value is more than what ieee is --
Philosophy of free software is no where comparable to ieee ----------- and
not worth comparing -----

ieee are the leading people in owning the copyrighted material (
Intellectual patent )
every days researcher are struggling like anything to take permission from
ieee to use the content

they have created such a dependancy ------ which is against the philosophy
of free softwares


Lets  carry on the spirit of free software movement without bothering to
which banner or who is doing - -still if some body wants to bother --- i
have no comments or opinions ---- i am only interested in the freedom
aspects

Whether RICH OR POOR ,,,,, ieee or fsf or fsug or some other banner -- you
can only see that freedom is what mattering everyone

we cant say that some one or some place or some country is poor so that
freedom should be compromised --- or some one is rich so we have to give
more freedom ---
some body ( ieee ) is treated with high respect by certain section of people
so we need to give more freedom ------------
( THIS is WHY I TOLD IT SHOULD NOT MATTER WHO IS CONTRIBUTING or who is
organizing --- what it matters whoever contributes or organizes the freedo
is what sould matter)

Thats y freedom is equally important for all -- let ieee come on to free
software track --- lets not compromise in any of the things
---------------------------------------

-------------------------------- PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
-------------------------------



On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Vikram Vincent <vincentvikram at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Renuka,
> (Taking this off-list)
>
> 2008/7/6 renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Vikram Vincent <vincentvikram at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I think that this is pretty important. Basic idea is that we organise
>>> tutorials in various places
>>>
>>
>> Who is organizing ?
>>
>>
>>> jointly under the banner of IEEE and Free Software Movement - Karnataka
>>> and we need
>>>
>>
>> I think you forgot that ieee clearly mentioned that this is the ieee
>> Professional chapter and ieee is organizing ----- Free Software movement
>> Karnataka ( ?????????????????????????????????)
>>
>> Why are you telling karnataka ------------------------- please forward the
>> complete thread --where many have replied right --- peple from mumbai also
>> have replied _________( so please correct it that resource people are from
>> free software movement -- whether it is karnataka or any other place it is
>> irrelevant here )
>>
>
>> and ieee wants resource persons -- for which they do not have any issues
>> if the resource people are from free software community ------
>>
>> This is what i understood from the meeting ----------------
>>
>> Over the last few years, many programs have been conducted all over
> Karnataka under the banner of Free Software Movement - Karnataka including
> Eben Moglen's talks at various places. I think you may remember my debate in
> another mail thread. This idea was initiated by Senthil and *not* IEEE. We
> are utilising IEEE banner so that we can take Free Software to places we may
> not be able to reach otherwise. If IEEE had not agreed we would still take
> this forward. Take my word for it. People from anywhere are free to reply to
> a thread or contribute in any way possible but it is duty of the local
> inhabitants to build the movement here and consistently.
> So I think the question of 'who is organising', 'role of IEEE', etc are
> clear.
>
> --
> Vikram Vincent
> +919448810822
> http://swatantra.org/
>
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