[FSUG-Bangalore] Can you present on technical topics on GNU/Linux

[renuka prasad]

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:30 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>
wrote:

> OK VIKRAM
>
> i am not interested in these issues
> i have no opinions about these kind of issues
> i don't want to spend time on these kind of issues
>
> what i have understood is that There is one movement called free software
> movement initiated by RMS, and later people who have accepted his philosophy
> , his thought , his ideas , ------------- mainly freedom are carrying on
> thats it .
>
> whether it is under banner of fsf or fsf india or FSUG bangalore --- or
> some XYZ banner will that really matter -- atleast for me it does not
> matter,
>
> who ever conducts with the interest of giving freedom to the users of
> softwares -- i am very happy to be part of it and will be always part of it
>
>
> As quoted by RMS in his talks ------- no user should be made dependent on
> anyone for anything --
>
> -------------- Senthil initiated ----------- very good ------ you intiate
> something very good -------------- to my understanding i am really not
> interested about who has initiated
> -------------- every one fighting for freedom is equally important and are
> equally good --
>
> Initiation has already happened --- so i am not so interested that who has
> initiated
> ------------------ leave all these ----------------- does this really
> matter??????????/
>
> VIKRAM ----- i think ieee is utilizing the avalable resources from free
> softwares community since we have to promote or create awareness -- -we are
> also using their banner
>
> you are telling that we cannot take free software to places --------------
> What is this ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> you are talking -- please rethink on this ------
>
> without ieee help free softwares have reached every one ___ 80 percent of
> internet is running on free softwares - did ieee come somewhere -
>
> it was RFC's ( Request for comments )  whcih made so many protocols
> avalable to developers and contributors -- otherwise we would have not been
> communicating at all the way today world is
>
> I whole heartedly welcome to the idea of using  ieee banner  ---- provided
> let them release all their contents under GPL ---- will they --- ?????
>
> still --- it is good that their is a track now ( track means like there are
> many tracks in ieee about research , general talk --so on ans so forth )
> which is interested in free software is good
>
> ------------------------ FREE SOFTWARES value is more than what ieee is --
> Philosophy of free software is no where comparable to ieee ----------- and
> not worth comparing -----
>
> ieee are the leading people in owning the copyrighted material (
> Intellectual patent )
> every days researcher are struggling like anything to take permission from
> ieee to use the content
>
> they have created such a dependancy ------ which is against the philosophy
> of free softwares
>
>
> Lets  carry on the spirit of free software movement without bothering to
> which banner or who is doing - -still if some body wants to bother --- i
> have no comments or opinions ---- i am only interested in the freedom
> aspects
>
> Whether RICH OR POOR ,,,,, ieee or fsf or fsug or some other banner -- you
> can only see that freedom is what mattering everyone
>
> we cant say that some one or some place or some country is poor so that
> freedom should be compromised --- or some one is rich so we have to give
> more freedom ---
> some body ( ieee ) is treated with high respect by certain section of
> people so we need to give more freedom ------------
> ( THIS is WHY I TOLD IT SHOULD NOT MATTER WHO IS CONTRIBUTING or who is
> organizing --- what it matters whoever contributes or organizes the freedo
> is what sould matter)
>
> Thats y freedom is equally important for all -- let ieee come on to free
> software track --- lets not compromise in any of the things
> ---------------------------------------
>
> -------------------------------- PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
> -------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Vikram Vincent <vincentvikram at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Renuka,
>> (Taking this off-list)
>>
>> 2008/7/6 renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Vikram Vincent <vincentvikram at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I think that this is pretty important. Basic idea is that we organise
>>>> tutorials in various places
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who is organizing ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> jointly under the banner of IEEE and Free Software Movement - Karnataka
>>>> and we need
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think you forgot that ieee clearly mentioned that this is the ieee
>>> Professional chapter and ieee is organizing ----- Free Software movement
>>> Karnataka ( ?????????????????????????????????)
>>>
>>> Why are you telling karnataka ------------------------- please forward
>>> the complete thread --where many have replied right --- peple from mumbai
>>> also have replied _________( so please correct it that resource people are
>>> from free software movement -- whether it is karnataka or any other place it
>>> is irrelevant here )
>>>
>>
>>> and ieee wants resource persons -- for which they do not have any issues
>>> if the resource people are from free software community ------
>>>
>>> This is what i understood from the meeting ----------------
>>>
>>> Over the last few years, many programs have been conducted all over
>> Karnataka under the banner of Free Software Movement - Karnataka including
>> Eben Moglen's talks at various places. I think you may remember my debate in
>> another mail thread. This idea was initiated by Senthil and *not* IEEE. We
>> are utilising IEEE banner so that we can take Free Software to places we may
>> not be able to reach otherwise. If IEEE had not agreed we would still take
>> this forward. Take my word for it. People from anywhere are free to reply to
>> a thread or contribute in any way possible but it is duty of the local
>> inhabitants to build the movement here and consistently.
>> So I think the question of 'who is organising', 'role of IEEE', etc are
>> clear.
>>
>> --
>> Vikram Vincent
>> +919448810822
>> http://swatantra.org/
>>
>
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