[Fsf Education] Programming Languages
Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:53:00 +0530
>>>>> "RKM" == Ramakrishnan M <email@example.com> writes:
RKM> || On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:16:31 +0530 || Raju Mathur
RKM> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
rm> I'd say Python. Even though I personally prefer Perl for my
rm> own programming, I appreciate that it takes some getting used
rm> to. Python
RKM> The original topic was "Which language should students on
RKM> Kerala learn" ?
RKM> Arun, hope you did not miss out any other word from this,
RKM> which can quite alter the topic. The word is "first". :-)
RKM> First of all, I don't think learning (one) "language" as a
RKM> recipe for every programming problem is a nice idea. People
RKM> program computers (which itself has a vague definition now a
RKM> days) for different purposes. I do signal processing using
RKM> computers (which does not include any form of input from
RKM> humans). Using Perl or Python or Lisp for that purpose is
RKM> ridiculous. We are talking about micro-seconds of processing
RKM> times. The average amount of "high level language" (which
RKM> sadly include C and only C most of the time) in the sort of
RKM> programs we do is roughly 5% (in terms of program memory, and
RKM> number of instructions ..yes we talk of program memory and
RKM> *not* number of lines).
RKM> Yes, school students of Kerala do not to Signal Processing,
RKM> but I was just trying to give an example that learning and
RKM> using "one programming language" as a recipe for all problems
RKM> is a plain bad idea.
RKM> So may be you might want to re-phrase the original post.
rm> is easy to learn and brings out OO concepts in a nice fashion.
rm> It still uses whitespace as syntax, but one can't have
rm> everything :-)
RKM> OO concepts ?? For school students of Kerala (assuming
RKM> students implies school students) ?? What more are they
RKM> supposed to learn ?
RKM> Let's first list the requirements first and then debate the
RKM> rest. Again, the phrase in the original post is a bit
RKM> I believe, one should use different language for different
RKM> purposes. There is no one stop programming language for any
RKM> given problem. That's the reason why we have so many
RKM> languages + some cracks decided to remove brackets and
RKM> decided to use white spaces instead and thus enforce the use
RKM> of an intelligent editor!!
rm> The students can move to Perl once they have some experience
rm> under their belts and are ready for a language that Takes Off
rm> Its Shirt and Gets To Work ;-)
RKM> And make everyone's life difficult by writing write-only
RKM> programs, use same variables in all possible name spaces and
RKM> do all sort of funky stuff.
RKM> They will all end up as bad programmers in their later
RKM> life... :-)
So, what's your point?
Raju Mathur email@example.com http://kandalaya.org/
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