OK FREEDOM FIGHTERS ----all are pumped up..<br><br>well let me tell my views on these <br><br>1) if we have to plan for the foundation and fsf-karnataka is the intention ( free software foundation - karnataka ) first thing is where will the contributors contribute the funds --- this is my my first worry -- i will contribute 1000 Rs for that as a fund the day it sarts -- but where is the website where i can donate online --- i cant take DD and do other things ( assume )<br>
<br>2)fsf-karnataka -- if the events happens independent of fsf-india then i feel we need to rethink on these <br><br>3) fsf-india itself has to become more stronger -- lets work towards that first<br><br>4) please stop commenting about some bodies presence in some part of the country or world and still being part of Free software moovement ----- i feel freedom fighter are freedom fighters whereve we go we have right to tell about free softwares and give freedom to the users of softwares <br>
<br>5 ) So good that we have a separate fsf ----- when it is a foundation then i thing there is need for lot of ground work to be done -- i feel another two more years are needed to make FSUG more in karnataka then we can form a fsf - karnataka <br>
<br>6) foundation means lot of contributions would pur in then who will manage all that and then there are many events have to be regualarly organized through out <br>---- so first lets make the community aware of the free softwares through out state and then we shall decide and do very organized way <br>
<br>So if we think practically and morally we need to become much more stronger and create more and more awareness then we can think of fsf-karnataka <br><br>if fsf karnatak is very much necessary then i can talk to some of the people who can even contribute offcie space and other things necessary -- i cant do that until and unless some concreate work is not shown <br>
<br>These are my views ----- so lets meet once ( FSUG -Bangalore or wherever you are ) and have more discussions <br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Vikram Vincent <<a href="mailto:vincentvikram@gmail.com">vincentvikram@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Anivar,<br>Are you proposing that you will stay in Karnataka till "death do us apart" and coordinate the Free Software Movement? AFAIK even Praveen's stay in Bangalore is temporary.<br>
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2008/6/2 Anivar Aravind <<a href="mailto:anivar.aravind@gmail.com" target="_blank">anivar.aravind@gmail.com</a>>:<div class="Ih2E3d"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
we live in a age in which issues of concern will spread through groups<br>
to group. I know if BMS user group takes up some issue to act<br>
automatically all user groups in the country will act on it. (some visble<br>
examples are VTU Floss campaign, which spread the spirit all over the<br>
country, Save karnataka campaign initiated by sampada, was supported by</blockquote></div><div><br>A simple assessment of the above says that they are only partial
attempts and we have not been able to convert them to any long term
gain such as policy change, etc.. as we are just applying the
"randomness" approach.<br>
<br></div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
most of us and FSF india also released a statement.- i remember you<br>
are against fsf india's support to sampada statement) . So There is no<br>
need to worry about addressing issues in whole karnataka i feel there</blockquote></div><div><br>What relationship does this have to do with the point I have proposed? <br><br></div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
is no need of a group with Authority of control and coordination. it is<br>
simply the over use of the ctrl key.</blockquote><div> </div></div><div>If you have some fears then please explain yourself clearly else please stop trying to spread FUD.<br><br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On a community way there is no need of a state level body/institution<br>
for movement coordination in a digital era . a visible exmaple is on<br>
functioning working group of FSF India</blockquote></div><div><br>You are comparing the working of incomparable groups. Reason is mentioned below. <br></div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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I will support FSF karnataka only after seeing FSF India as a strong<br>
organisation entity (now its activities are 2-3 peoples work) to <br>
vanguard users freedom. I believe the current need is strengthening FSF<br>
India's campaigns, and asking FSF India to take up issues from<br>
Karanataka than creating a Local FSF<br>
<font color="#888888"></font></blockquote></div><div><br>Your support and opinion about a proposed FSF-Karnataka needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. You have completely skipped your accusations about FSF-{AP, Ker} and jumped to FSF-India without giving any concrete reasons.<br>
</div></div>As we are witnessing, FSF-AP's activities are independent of FSF-India and that is appreciable. Just because somebody fails does not mean that all of us are useless.<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
-- <br>Vikram Vincent<br>+919448810822<br>
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