well let me tell my views on these <br><br>1) if we have to plan for
the foundation and fsf-karnataka is the intention ( free software
foundation - karnataka ) first thing is where will the contributors
contribute the funds --- this is my my first worry -- i will contribute
1000 Rs for that as a fund the day it sarts -- but where is the website
where i can donate online --- i cant take DD and do other things (
assume )<br>
<br>2)fsf-karnataka -- if the events happens independent of fsf-india then i feel we need to rethink on these <br><br>3) fsf-india itself has to become more stronger -- lets work towards that first<br><br>4)
please stop commenting about some bodies presence in some part of the
country or world and still being part of Free software moovement -----
i feel freedom fighter are freedom fighters whereve we go we have right
to tell about free softwares and give freedom to the users of softwares
<br>
<br>5 ) So good that we have a separate fsf ----- when it is a
foundation then i thing there is need for lot of ground work to be done
-- i feel another two more years are needed to make FSUG more in
karnataka then we can form a fsf - karnataka <br>
<br>6) foundation means lot of contributions would pur in then who will
manage all that and then there are many events have to be regualarly
organized through out <br>---- so first lets make the community aware
of the free softwares through out state and then we shall decide and do
very organized way <br>
<br>So if we think practically and morally we need to become much more
stronger and create more and more awareness then we can think of
fsf-karnataka <br><br>if fsf karnatak is very much necessary then i
can talk to some of the people who can even contribute offcie space and
other things necessary -- i cant do that until and unless some
concreate work is not shown <br>
<br>These are my views ----- so lets meet once ( FSUG -Bangalore or wherever you are ) and have more discussions <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Vikram Vincent <<a href="mailto:vincentvikram@gmail.com">vincentvikram@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/2 Anivar Aravind <<a href="mailto:anivar.aravind@gmail.com" target="_blank">anivar.aravind@gmail.com</a>>:<div class="Ih2E3d">
<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>><br>
> A simple assessment of the above says that they are only partial<br>
> attempts and we have not been able to convert them to any long term gain<br>
> such as policy change, etc.. as we are just applying the "randomness"<br>
> approach.<br>
<br>
</div>Thats why I pointed about the need of strengthening FSF India. This<br>
discussion itself shows immaturity of the movement here</blockquote></div><div><br>No one disagreed about strengthening FSF-India. However, there is nothing wrong with simultaneously working towards a coordination forum at the State level.<br>
AGAIN, now is not the time for an FSF-Karnataka<br></div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>> I will support FSF karnataka only after seeing FSF India as a strong<br>
<div>
> organisation entity (now its activities are 2-3 peoples work) to<br>
> vanguard users freedom. I believe the current need is strengthening FSF<br>
> India's campaigns, and asking FSF India to take up issues from<br>
> Karanataka than creating a Local FSF<br>
><br>
><br>
> Your support and opinion about a proposed FSF-Karnataka needs to be<br>
> taken with a pinch of salt. You have completely skipped your accusations<br>
> about FSF-{AP, Ker} and jumped to FSF-India without giving any concrete<br>
> reasons.<br>
<br>
</div>Accusations? I pointed about the problems of Institution driven<br>
movement instead of keeping a healthier link between community and<br>
foundation. They will work off course in some level as we seen on kerala<br>
and AP. But it is not a role model. In kerala free software community &<br>
movement crossed this problem existed before.<br>
</blockquote></div></div><br clear="all">What Institution driven movement? Are you referring to FSF? Any problems in implementation can always be rectified.<br>Your argument still does not hold water. <br><div><div></div>
<div class="Wj3C7c">-- <br>Vikram Vincent<br>
+919448810822<br><a href="http://swatantra.org/" target="_blank">http://swatantra.org/</a>
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