Dear Mr. Arvind Kumar Chinniah,<br><br>I am new to this mailing list. Still, I have a word for you. Please check for yourself before making accusations. The group mailing list address is <a href="mailto:fsf-friends@mm.gnu.org.in">fsf-friends@mm.gnu.org.in</a> where as your friend used the wrong address <a href="mailto:fsf-friends@gnu.org.in">fsf-friends@gnu.org.in</a> and how do you expect the mail to reach this group?<br>
<br>Regards,<br>Sebin<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Arvind Kumar Chinniah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arvindkumar.c@gmail.com">arvindkumar.c@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p><span class="gmail_quote">My friend vijayan tried to send a message to fsf-friends which couldnt reach... you all.. so.. i thought I will forward the mail...</span></p>
<div>Can anybody tell why it could not reach the list. I hope it is not done purposefully. If done so.. i think the list lost its.. 'Free' ness and the boasted openess to criticism.<br> </div>
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Subject: failure notice<br>To: <a href="mailto:srinivasanvijayan@yahoo.com" target="_blank">srinivasanvijayan@yahoo.com</a><br>Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:31 AM<br>
<br><pre>Hi. This is the qmail-send program at <a href="http://yahoo.com/" target="_blank">yahoo.com</a>.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<<a href="mailto:fsf-friends@gnu.org.in" target="_blank">fsf-friends@gnu.org.in</a>>:
CNAME lookup failed temporarily. (#4.4.3)
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
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Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Use of Windows by some speakers
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Dear Friends,
=A0
Why did not the organiser release the code of conduct that inculde prohibit=
ing the use of properity software in the venue when a participant apply to =
conduct their program? When the organisers failed to issue such whip during=
the stage of organising and what is the point in expecting the audience to=
raise this issue at the venue. Most of the time the audience are passive a=
nd it seldom be spontaneous unless it is organised. I expect the FSF india =
should issue a statement in thier website explaining their position on this=
issue and=A0should not hesitate to come forward with an apology.
=A0
Vijayan
--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Arun M <<a href="mailto:arun@gnu.org.in" target="_blank">arun@gnu.org.in</a>> wrote:
From: Arun M <<a href="mailto:arun@gnu.org.in" target="_blank">arun@gnu.org.in</a>>
Subject: [Fsf-friends] Use of Windows by some speakers
To: <a href="mailto:fsf-friends@gnu.org.in" target="_blank">fsf-friends@gnu.org.in</a>
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:22 AM
Dear Friends,
=A0Thanks for pointing out that some of the speakers used=A0proprietary=A0s=
oftware in FSFS conference. It is a serious mistake and=A0
I will be taking this up in organising committee of the conference to ensur=
e that this mistake is not repeated.=A0
I talked to the person in charge of the technical track and he said two or =
three speakers in technical track used=A0proprietary=A0operating system.=A0
It seems that they had their development environment setup in their laptops=
with=A0proprietary OS hence wanted to use their laptop.
Unfortunately=A0no one=A0pointed out this at the venue. Otherwise we could =
have corrected there itself. Most of the free software activists
were spending their time in Policy track and exhibition.=A0
In the policy track, participants objected to speakers when they took posit=
ion which was not acceptable to free software=A0
community.=A0
I request my friends to raise voices when ever you see these kinds of mista=
kes. By raising your voice and protesting,=A0
we will be able to better educate others. Mistakes can be an=A0opportunity=
=A0for education.=A0
Couple of other points raised in blogs:
1. I dont think it is wrong to show windows like theme in the exhibition.=
=A0
2. One blogger try to ridicule free software=A0activists=A0as fanatics.=A0A=
nother blogger finds fault in stating that free software is a social moveme=
nt.=A0
Warm regards
Arun
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style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Dear Friends,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Why did not the organiser release the code of conduct that inculde
prohibiting the use of properity software in the venue when a participant apply
to conduct their program? When the organisers failed to issue such whip during
the stage of organising and what is the point in expecting the audience to raise
this issue at the venue. Most of the time the audience are passive and it seldom
be spontaneous unless it is organised. I expect the FSF india should issue a
statement in thier website explaining their position on this issue
and&nbsp;should not hesitate to come forward with an apology.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Vijayan<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 12/13/08, Arun M
<I>&<a href="mailto:lt%3Barun@gnu.org.in" target="_blank">lt;arun@gnu.org.in</a>&gt;</I></B>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Arun M
&<a href="mailto:lt%3Barun@gnu.org.in" target="_blank">lt;arun@gnu.org.in</a>&gt;<BR>Subject: [Fsf-friends] Use of Windows
by some speakers<BR>To: <a href="mailto:fsf-friends@gnu.org.in" target="_blank">fsf-friends@gnu.org.in</a><BR>Date: Saturday,
December 13, 2008, 8:22 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv568324305>Dear Friends,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;Thanks for pointing out that some of the speakers
used&nbsp;proprietary&nbsp;software in FSFS conference. It is a serious
mistake and&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I will be taking this up in organising committee of the conference
to ensure that this mistake is not repeated.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I talked to the person in charge of the technical track and he said
two or three speakers in technical track
used&nbsp;proprietary&nbsp;operating system.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It seems that they had their development environment setup in their
laptops with&nbsp;proprietary OS hence wanted to use their
laptop.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Unfortunately&nbsp;no one&nbsp;pointed out this at the
venue. Otherwise we could have corrected there itself. Most of the free software
activists</DIV>
<DIV>were spending their time in Policy track and
exhibition.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In the policy track, participants objected to speakers when they
took position which was not acceptable to free software&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>community.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I request my friends to raise voices when ever you see these kinds
of mistakes. By raising your voice and protesting,&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>we will be able to better educate others. Mistakes can be
an&nbsp;opportunity&nbsp;for education.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Couple of other points raised in blogs:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>1. I dont think it is wrong to show windows like theme in the
exhibition.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>2. One blogger try to ridicule free
software&nbsp;activists&nbsp;as fanatics.&nbsp;Another blogger finds
fault in stating that free software is a social movement.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Warm regards</DIV>
<DIV>Arun</DIV>
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