<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div id="yiv1366450978">Dear Rakesh,<br><br> You don't know the real mafia that runs fee software from Trivandrum. <br>They want to eat up all the money from government coffers. They will do the same project any number of times. Look at space, apts or any free software initiative that we have in kerala. They are for sucking government money.<br> Take the case of Malayalam localization. These guys did <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://keltron.co.in/malayalam/">this</a> When fund got exhausted they shifted to Space. They will come out with another initiative when the government changes. <br><br> If the government had entrusted localization to a commercial software company , after inviting tenders and with a condition that the code developed is GPL , the task
might have been over in
a very short time. <br>The localisation will go on for ever and malayalam will eventually die.<br><br> The Cochin event was well engineered so that the Mafia get a martyr image.<br>They got maximum publicity. Several old listers will remember how some of the board members sneaked into the board overnight.<br><br> All FSF board members from Kerala form a gang ( I dont know about others) . Have a look at this page.<br>http://www.gnu.org.in/about-fsf-india/whos-who And then examine the real contribution of kerala members on technology front. It will be a big zero.<br>FSF India should publish detials of its board memebers ,working group members and clearly state what free software project each one is associated with. ( I can even see people with just email ids alone like kg(at)tug.org.in )<br> <br><br> I think there are several listers around who recognises the
gang.<br>Now that they are caught red handed , they are trying to be diplomatic and offering soaps to the original blogger to douse the fire. (See lug TVM mail list) It seems Sunil will get kick behind his back very soon.<br> <br>Kannan<br> PS Just read the list of people protested as posted by Arun. The very people who ran the Trivandrum show. They are seen at film festival cultural events Computer Society of India ,IEEE, ABCD XYZ etc. You start a new forum they will hijack it in due course.<br> <br> <br><br>--- On <b>Mon, 12/15/08, Rakesh രാകേഷ് <i><rakeshklr@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: Rakesh രാകേഷ് <rakeshklr@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Use of Windows by some speakers<br>To: "Arun M" <arun@gnu.org.in><br>Cc:
fsf-friends@gnu.org.in<br>Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:32 AM<br><br><div id="yiv1615071907">Dear Arun,<div><br></div><div>Just a single question...</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0);">Mistake is mistake and it has to be corrected. It would have been nice<br>
if you had<br>joined as a volunteer for the conference. We were just a hand full of<br>people who were doing<br>most of the work at the end of the day.. All the committees and<br>officials did not do the sweat job.<br>And it is a fact that technical track was on our lowest priority.</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0);"></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(204, 102, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0);"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Why didnt you have the same feeling when you initiated the bloody drama in the name of Novell protest at Cochin conference....?????</span></span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0);"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">A hand full of students and teachers were working hard day and night to make the Cochin event a great success... No one like you were there to help them...</span></span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0);"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">And at the end of the day, you tried your level best to demoralize them....</span></span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0);"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">At least start thinking in the right direction, for the best of the free software community if you still do not have some other concerns...</span></span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0);"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Rakesh<br>
</span></span></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Arun M <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:arun@gnu.org.in">arun@gnu.org.in</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear Sunil,<br>
<br>
Mistake is mistake and it has to be corrected. It would have been nice<br>
if you had<br>
joined as a volunteer for the conference. We were just a hand full of<br>
people who were doing<br>
most of the work at the end of the day. All the committees and<br>
officials did not do the sweat job.<br>
And it is a fact that technical track was on our lowest priority.<br>
<br>
Out of around 16 technical session only one came out to be wrong<br>
decisions. Out of nearly 50 panelist<br>
who participated in policy session, no one found any major policy issues.<br>
<br>
In the exhibition area only issue that was found is one person having<br>
a windows laptop in SBT stall.<br>
State Bank of Travencore was a sponsor for the event and they were<br>
given a stall. They were distributing<br>
their publicity materials. One of their staff was having a windows<br>
based laptop.<br>
<br>
Having windows like theme is not a wrong thing IMHO. Some one asked<br>
about streaming technology used.<br>
It is <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://giss.tv">giss.tv</a> and as far as we know it is based on free software and<br>
ogg format.<br>
Video conferencing was with Ekiga.<br>
<br>
<br>
with warm regards<br>
<font color="#888888">arun.<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Sunil Thomas Thonikuzhiyil<br>
<<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:vu2swx@gmail.com">vu2swx@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> It is interesting to see that partly proprietary java fx got in.<br>
> I am not asking for the details of tech committee.<br>
><br>
> Sunil<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Arun M <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:arun@gnu.org.in">arun@gnu.org.in</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > Was there any peer review in selecting topics . Or was it done<br>
>> > arbitrarily.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Do you have any clue to it.<br>
>><br>
>> There was a program committee for technical presentations.<br>
>><br>
>> regards<br>
>> arun<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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