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Tue Mar 24 21:03:10 IST 2009
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Also, you apparently find it difficult to understand the notification.
Nobody is interested in users having passwords to log into private
networks, the notification asks for all users to be centrally
registered with the ISP. This is a backdoor method to empower ISPs to
begin identifying subscribers on the basis of numbers of users per
subscription ID, and the logical next step will be differential rates.
I am rather more interested in a regulatory framework that will govern
the leaking of such personal information to third parties (at the
moment, there is none, so...).
Such registrations will in no way help security agencies to identify
malafide users of home networks, which (ie IEEE 802.11x compliant) are
inherently not designed for high-security environments. Have you
registered, or been asked to register, all your family members and
guests who use the home (cordless) telephone? Would it serve any
useful purpose? QED.
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> Nagarjuna G.
> http://www.gnowledge.org/
I am surprised that there hasn't been any response to this on the list.
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">The Indian govt seems to be living in a state=
of paranoia. When they face something they don't know how to control, they=
BAN it. <br><br>Ban yahoo groups because some activists posted some nonsen=
se which hurt the govt. <br><br>Ban orkut, because some dimwits think posti=
ng nude pics on their profile is a cool idea.<br><br>Ban BlackBerry, becaus=
e RIM won't provide the encryption key. And all terrorists uses Blackberry =
anyway.<br><br>Ban skype, it uses VoIP to call terrorists all over the worl=
d, and is untracable.<br><br>Now ban open wifi, because terrorists will acc=
ess p0rn through your wifi signals.<br><br>Why, is it they can't implement =
preventive measures? Learn technology, come up with a competent measure to =
REDUCE threats rather than ban everything in sight?<br><br>Whenever there's=
username/password combination, there'd be 1000x times more exploits than
there's now. Everyone is so keen in attacking 'protected' systems, rather =
than unprotected ones.<br><br>What now? no MAC id spoofing? You should use =
your PAN no. as your MAC. You should list all your electronic devices capab=
le of WiFi access to the govt. Everyone should carry an Id card if he plans=
to use internet? Submit your site access logs along with tax filing to the=
govt.?<br><br>Ban all JPEG/MPEG formats as they carry pornography. Ban com=
puters from 15 mts from children, as computers are full of porn and cyber t=
errorists.<br><br>Ban camera mobiles.<br><br>Ban bluetooth...<br><br>*BAN P=
EOPLE*!!!<br><br>Pissed,<br>Mahesh Aravind<br><br>-----<br>God grant us the=
serenity to accept the things we cannot change, courage to change the thin=
gs we can, and wisdom to know the difference.<br>
<br>
Registered Linux user #371671 -- http://maravind.blogspot.com/<br><br>--- O=
n <b>Wed, 10/21/09, shirish =E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=B0=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B7 <=
i><shirishag75 at gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"bord=
er-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">=
<br>From: shirish =E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=B0=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B7 <shirish=
ag75 at gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] [fosscomm] wifi restrictio=
ns<br>To: "Indian FOSS Community Network list" <network at lists.fosscom.in=
><br>Cc: fsf-friends at mm.gnu.org.in<br>Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009,=
11:13 AM<br><div class=3D"plainMail"><br>This is definitely bad news for p=
otential users of technology (including me)<br><br>From the post one of the=
comments really puts up the points.<br><br><quote><br><br><br>Also, =
you apparently find it difficult to understand the notification.<br>Nobody =
is interested in users having passwords to log into private<br>networks, th=
e notification asks for all users to be
centrally<br>registered with the ISP. This is a backdoor method to empower=
ISPs to<br>begin identifying subscribers on the basis of numbers of users =
per<br>subscription ID, and the logical next step will be differential rate=
s.<br>I am rather more interested in a regulatory framework that will gover=
n<br>the leaking of such personal information to third parties (at the<br>m=
oment, there is none, so...).<br><br>Such registrations will in no way help=
security agencies to identify<br>malafide users of home networks, which (i=
e IEEE 802.11x compliant) are<br>inherently not designed for high-security =
environments. Have you<br>registered, or been asked to register, all your f=
amily members and<br>guests who use the home (cordless) telephone? Would it=
serve any<br>useful purpose? QED.<br><br></quote=3DSeykun><br><br>&g=
t; --<br>> Nagarjuna G.<br>> <a href=3D"http://www.gnowledge.org/" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.gnowledge.org/</a><br><br>I am surprised that
there hasn't been any response to this on the list.<br><br>-- <br> &=
nbsp; Regards,<br> S=
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