[Fsf-friends] Mail text missing(partial) in Archive [Fwd: Comrades’ new-found love with IT]

[justin joseph]

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun at gnu.org.in> wrote:
>
> Is the forwarded message the original message?

Yes, it is.

But even this mail which mentioned the problem and has the forwarded
mail got truncated in archive:
http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006205.html

The next message in this thread which I send mentioning the
truncation, got archived with
the forwarded mail intact.:
http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006207.html

Wonder why your mail has not been archived yet.  Did mailman get fed
up with those long threads :-)


>
> Nagarjuna
>
> On Saturday 10 January 2009 22:00:02 justin joseph wrote:
>> The mail archive for fsf-friends has partial text missing for my
>> mail.
>>
>> Refer the link below(the original mail is forwarded with this
>> mail):
>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006182.htm
>>l
>>
>> The reply to which can be seen here:
>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006185.htm
>>l
>>
>> The reply-to-reply can be seen here:
>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006187.htm
>>l
>>
>> The mail in the _FIRST_ archive link has all text missing.  This
>> is also evident by comparing the three archive links.
>>
>> I compose in plain text.  List admins, why has this happened?
>>
>> -justin
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: justin joseph <justinjoseph007 at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Comrades' new-found love with IT
>> To: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind at gmail.com>
>> Cc: haynes davis <haynesdavis at gmail.com>, fsf-friends
>> <fsf-friends at mm.gnu.org.in>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Anivar Aravind
> <anivar.aravind at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:21 PM, haynes davis
> <haynesdavis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> right now non-cpim is a big vacuum regarding free software as
>> >> far as political and government support is considered. Why our
>> >> struggle does not seem to be productive in the other states and
>> >> the central government?
>> >
>> > And Left's adoption of Free Software Policy in Kerala is also a
>> > logical follow up of various actions & discussions initiated by
>> > Free Software Activists. Even the decision to adopt Free
>> > Software in IT at School was decided in an SCERT meeting (with the
>> > support of 85% of teachers) much before  2006 elections. But the
>> > govt came after election got the political advantage of this
>> > decision. and we are very happy about that because they are also
>> > helping FS movement by adopting new policies .
>>
>> From
>> http://blue-gnu.biz/content/fsf_india_039_s_impact_far_reaching
>>
>> Answering to question "Can you tell me some of the key events that
>> have brought FSF India to the present?"
>>
>> Sasi Kumar _also_ said:
>>
>> "This was supported by other organisations also, especially the
>> Kerala School Teachers' Association and the then Opposition Leader
>> (current Chief Minister) Mr. V.S. Achuthanandan. As a consequence
>> of these pressures, the textbook was changed in the second year to
>> include Free Software also. Eventually, the government decided to
>> use exclusively Free Software in schools. Thus Kerala became the
>> first state in the country (and possibly in the world) to use
>> exclusively Free Software in schools."
>>
>> Anivar, you are also talking binary.  "Left" on one side and "Free
>> Software activists" on other side.
>> Are you saying that the _Kerala School Teachers Association_ (your
>> (teachers)are entirely composed of free software
>> activists and that V.S Achuthanandan was also a "free software
>> activist"
>>
>> Out of the four gains that Sasi kumar has mentioned in his answer,
>> he gives credit to left parties directly in two.
>>
>> The other being:
>>
>> "The left parties, which are partners in the present coalition
>> government, were sympatheric to our cause and expressed their
>> views to the Minister. Eventually, the government decided to drop
>> the provisions that were most harmful."
>>
>> Sympathies of the left parties does not come out of charity or
>> emotion.  It comes out of
>> ideological positions and understandings.  If there is no
>> understanding of these then at least do
>> not try and play a disruptive force in the left - free software
>> alliance by suggesting that left and
>> free software activism of kerala are _totally_ mutually exclusive
>> and that the only interconnection
>> between them is through "follow up", "political advantage", "help"
>> etc..
>>
>> > But when people are pushing Bush's binary logic of "Either you
>> > are with us or You are against us" (only-cpim positions and
>> > branding everything else as Anti-CPIM) we have to remind
>> > history.
>>
>> It is better for the free software ecosystems that you stop
>> playing its official historian.
>> Report is a different thing and _history_ is a totally different
>> thing.
>>
>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2008-November/005850.ht
>>ml
>>
>> Anyone can be with the left and still be a free software activist
>> and their  contribution
>> and the contributions of their likes, you have no right to
>> appropriate as you wish and write histories
>> as you wish.
>>
>> > Anivar
>> >
>> >> Haynes.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown
>> > Free Software industry because it creates the basis for future
>> > jobs. Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at
>> > McDonalds. _______________________________________________
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