[Fsf-friends] Mail text missing(partial) in Archive [Fwd: Comrades’ new-found love with IT]

[justin joseph]

Why are we still on mailman version 2.1.9

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:04 PM, justin joseph
<justinjoseph007 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM, justin joseph
> <justinjoseph007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The mail archive for fsf-friends has partial text missing for my mail.
>>
>> Refer the link below(the original mail is forwarded with this mail):
>
> I can see that the forwarded mail too got truncated in archive :-(
>
>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006182.html
>>
>> The reply to which can be seen here:
>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006185.html
>>
>> The reply-to-reply can be seen here:
>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006187.html
>>
>> The mail in the _FIRST_ archive link has all text missing.  This is
>> also evident by comparing the three archive links.
>>
>> I compose in plain text.  List admins, why has this happened?
>>
>> -justin
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: justin joseph <justinjoseph007 at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Comrades' new-found love with IT
>> To: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind at gmail.com>
>> Cc: haynes davis <haynesdavis at gmail.com>, fsf-friends
>> <fsf-friends at mm.gnu.org.in>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:21 PM, haynes davis <haynesdavis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> right now non-cpim is a big vacuum regarding free software as far as
>>>> political and government support is considered. Why our struggle does not
>>>> seem to be productive in the other states and the central government?
>>
>>> And Left's adoption of Free Software Policy in Kerala is also a
>>> logical follow up of various actions & discussions initiated by Free
>>> Software Activists. Even the decision to adopt Free Software in
>>> IT at School was decided in an SCERT meeting (with the support of 85% of
>>> teachers) much before  2006 elections. But the govt came after
>>> election got the political advantage of this decision. and we are very
>>> happy about that because they are also helping FS movement by adopting
>>> new policies .
>>
>> From http://blue-gnu.biz/content/fsf_india_039_s_impact_far_reaching
>>
>> Answering to question "Can you tell me some of the key events that
>> have brought FSF India to the present?"
>>
>> Sasi Kumar _also_ said:
>>
>> "This was supported by other organisations also, especially the Kerala
>> School Teachers' Association and the then Opposition Leader (current
>> Chief Minister) Mr. V.S. Achuthanandan. As a consequence of these
>> pressures, the textbook was changed in the second year to include Free
>> Software also. Eventually, the government decided to use exclusively
>> Free Software in schools. Thus Kerala became the first state in the
>> country (and possibly in the world) to use exclusively Free Software
>> in schools."
>>
>> Anivar, you are also talking binary.  "Left" on one side and "Free
>> Software activists" on other side.
>> Are you saying that the _Kerala School Teachers Association_ (your
>> (teachers)are entirely composed of free software
>> activists and that V.S Achuthanandan was also a "free software activist"
>>
>> Out of the four gains that Sasi kumar has mentioned in his answer, he
>> gives credit to left parties directly in two.
>>
>> The other being:
>>
>> "The left parties, which are partners in the present coalition
>> government, were sympatheric to our cause and expressed their views to
>> the Minister. Eventually, the government decided to drop the
>> provisions that were most harmful."
>>
>> Sympathies of the left parties does not come out of charity or
>> emotion.  It comes out of
>> ideological positions and understandings.  If there is no
>> understanding of these then at least do
>> not try and play a disruptive force in the left - free software
>> alliance by suggesting that left and
>> free software activism of kerala are _totally_ mutually exclusive and
>> that the only interconnection
>> between them is through "follow up", "political advantage", "help" etc..
>>
>>>
>>> But when people are pushing Bush's binary logic of "Either you are
>>> with us or You are against us" (only-cpim positions and branding
>>> everything else as Anti-CPIM) we have to remind history.
>>
>> It is better for the free software ecosystems that you stop playing
>> its official historian.
>> Report is a different thing and _history_ is a totally different thing.
>>
>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2008-November/005850.html
>>
>> Anyone can be with the left and still be a free software activist and
>> their  contribution
>> and the contributions of their likes, you have no right to appropriate
>> as you wish and write histories
>> as you wish.
>>
>>>
>>> Anivar
>>>
>>>> Haynes.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free
>>> Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs.
>>> Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds.
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