[Fsf-friends] Fwd: [en] Caracas Declaration
Juan Carlos Gentile Fagundez
jucar at hipatia.net
Fri Aug 7 21:49:02 IST 2009
Dear Santhil, I forgot many important things in my mail.
India is a case I don't know. As i said I don't speak any of your languages :(
even if I love your country. India is the country where I'll like to live.
Anyway let me tell that for us south-americans where i know how things are, we
need to thanks the left wings.
In India I don't know, I can not, it is too far from me. For that was my mail
to Nagarjuna too. Then.... I ask to you sincerly excuses to not have
explained that before.
Take my answer as a south-american answer. Things can be the same or the
opposite. Maybe we can hear more opinions.
regards
juan
On Friday 07 August 2009, Juan Carlos Gentile Fagundez wrote:
>Helo
>
>I think this is better to go public, since i'm answering to you and
> forwarding some the persons that also were in the original mail.
>
>On Friday 07 August 2009 07:27:13 am you wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >My name is Senthil and I volunteer for fsmk.org. This is just a question
> > out of curiosity.
>
>Nice to meet you and to try to satisfy your curiosity (I'll add at the
> bottom the original mail i answered to Nagarjuna, since that is also an
> important topic.
>Also I have a curiosity , do you work for cisco?
>hmm.
>
> >I was interested in the tensions between Marxist groups in Venzuela and
> > free software.
>
>here i have a second curiosity. Is that what you think in India?
>Can you give me some information? This is the first time i hear something
> like that. And in my personal experience working as adviser in pdvsa for
> the migration, I have the oposite experience. Are normally the right wing
> persons that are going against the movement.
>Do you know president Chavez? He is left. He did the decree 3390. Did you
> know that? Maybe you are lacking of information.
>Do you know president Rafael Correa from Ecuador? Well that is also the
> left wing and he is absolutely commited with free software.
>Do you know also Fernando Lugo from Paraguay? He is also from the left
> wing, and also commited with free software.
>
>In my personal experience the groups stopping the real thing are the right
>wing groups. Let me explain something. Who knows about free software in
>Venezuela is mainly a rich person, to know something about fs you need to
>have networking and so on specially in this countries. Then before Chavez
> who had network was what today is 'opposition'. In fact this right wing
> persons don't like too much that was Chavez from left wing that really
> took care of Free Software. Then this kind of community don't want to
> spread knowledge to the poors (the poors normally are left wing - at least
> in this countries :) In fact they try to keep the important positions also
> in the government being deeply inside oposition, then doing nasty things.
>Many ministeries bought oracle, cisco and so on. That is very bad.
>
> >Do the Marxist groups really contribute to free software and have they
> > adopted strong positions. Do they really help the free software
> > movement.
>
>Lets say the right wing groups had damage a lot and continue doing this.
>Read my answer to nagarjuna asking him a very important thing for us. TO
> PUT ATTENTION TO WHAT HE IS DOING SPEAKING.
>
> >We see a lot of tension in India between these groups and was wondering
> > if there is a pattern in the way these things work worldwide.
>
>Maybe the patern is the one of fight for freedom and equality between
> humans. At least that is are the left groups from the south.
>
>I hope to have answered to you, because this is the first time i've seen a
>question like that -> l " was interested in the tensions between Marxist
>groups in Venzuela and free software".
>
>Please send me information since if this is what arrives to India as new,
> many things are wrong. There will be some part some cracking to the
> information.
>
>warm regards
>juan
>
> >Thanks
> >senthil
>
>---------------- my answer to nagarjuna before ---------------------
>
>Dear Nagarjuna,
>
>you are missing the point forwarding this 'noisy declaration'
>
>This declaration was signed where? by 5 6 man?
>what is that?, the comunities in south-america are only this ammount of
>persons?
>hmmm
>
>Remember, South-America where you've been once or twice, is far from
>India, they dont speak english.
>You remember me when I try to understand malayalam. I can not.
>
>Will be better to be very informed how are things in the south.
>
>I put in cc some man that i think you should meet, or not depending if
>you want or not to understand how things are.
>
>Martin Olivera -> president of solar.org.ar Free Software Association of
>Argentina
>Diego Saravia -> author of ututo, the most important project on free
>software in South- America. He also gave to rms a honoris causa by the
>salta university.
>Also Diego has been one of the creators of solar itself, and more, also
>helped create ASLE , the ecuatorian Free Software Asociation, and also
>SOLVE in venezuela. AS you see, he was one of the creators of the 80 per
>cent of the Free Software Associations and also the important ones (of
>course Brasil is not there).
>Rafael Bonifaz -> worked for the Ecuatorian Government very commited
>with free software, one of the creators of ASLE.
>
>Then I think will be interesting to talk to the communities
>
>thanks very much
>
>regards
>
>juan
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