[Fsf-friends] Futility of going after ISO

krishnakant Mane krmane at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 21:48:43 IST 2008

hi anoop.
I do respect your feelings and passion about the issue and freedom in general.
while it is true idealy, but what you propose is not really practical
because there are some issues which can't be discussed on the mailing
list and we all know about those underhand money tactics which all
companies play to get ISO standard.
secondly ISO is about standards and not necessarily about "open "
standards.  if it believes for example, that ooxml is a standard it
could be due to many reasons on and off the table.
the idea was not about "double " standards as you said, it is about a
community platform to approve open standards purely ment for freedom
of common man.
happy hacking.

On 18/04/2008, Anoop Jacob Thomas <anoopjt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Friends/Community,
> Well what i felt like after reading this letter is "hey i dont like to be
> part of this group, i will start another group". I dont think it is a good
> idea to start a group for each purpose if one group can serve the purpose.
> ISO is a standards organization and be it for business or anything, it
> shouldn't have made such a mistake. And even if it has made a mistake, as a
> member of the community i think it is our duty to correct it. ISO standards
> are followed everywhere and our aim is to spread Free Software, people
> should be Free and how can we keep quiet on seeing such a mistake where
> people can be misled. Our aim is not to create double standards, and
> creating another group/standard is equivalent to that.
> We fight to get justice, people cannot be misled by a mistake caused by an
> Organization. If it is not us, then who will do it?
> Please see http://fsfeurope.org/documents/msooxml-questions.pdf
> Find mail from ck.thrissur at gmail.com below:
> Anoop Jacob Thomas
> Trivandrum, Kerala (www.ilug-tvm.org)
> *On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:27 AM, CK Raju, Thrissur <ck.thrissur at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> *
> >
> > *Dear RMS,
> > I think its futile to chase ISO anymore. We would only land up
> > spending our own creative energy which we can't afford to at this
> > pace.
> >
> > "    * Market-driven
> >
> > ISO only develops standards for which there is a market requirement.
> > The work is mainly carried out by experts from the industrial,
> > technical and business sectors which have asked for the standards, and
> > which subsequently put them to use." .. in their own words at
> > http://www.iso.org/iso/about/discover-iso_the-iso-brand.htm
> >
> > Why should Free Software Foundation and other like minded
> > organisations allow ISO to take over software standards and make it -
> > only *market-driven* one ?
> >
> > Its not difficult to realise that the *very conditions* that
> > necessitated a Standards Organisation to be promoted, are now
> > prevalent and omnipresent.
> >
> > Why not create another organisation that develops standards for the
> > common world citizens to communicate with freedom ?
> >
> > Shouldn't we ask ourselves now about this, and try to define the
> > *framework* that would set in motion a new organisation which would be
> > able to come out with Free/Open Standards after *defining* them  in as
> > unambigous terms as possible ?
> >
> > CK Raju,
> > MES College of Engineering, Kuttippuram
> > Kerala,
> > India
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> --
> Anoop Jacob Thomas (www.ilug-tvm.org)

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