[Fsf-friends] Re: suggestions needed on an initiative

Sat May 14 10:13:26 IST 2005

Punnet,
  Sorry. I live in US, so I cant be of much practical
help. So while emails matter, I was not sure that I
another comment would useful.

  Coming to the matter on hand. I think that only a
handful of students in any given college will be
interested. I think we should target them by personal
contact. My plan of action would be to drop into a CS
lab, catch the students who are in there of their own
interest (not just because it is a lab period), and
see if they are interested. 1st and 2nd years students
are ideal.

>From the FLOSS report 
http://floss.infonomics.nl/report/Final4.htm#_Toc13908256
We know that 2/3rds of the FLOSS community are
motivated to join and stay in FLOSS for the following
reasons.
1) Share knowledge and skills.
2) Learn and develop new skills

I think we should try to find common ground on those
reasons. Also we should mention that their job
prospects will improve (and they will, it happened to
me).

I am quite surprised that nobody took Thejesh up on
his  offer of money. Maybe an award kind of system
(from FSF) will be more useful. 

I am quite keen on IT@School, and Skole Linux, if
anybody wants to take it up, I will be more than happy
to fund it with small amounts of money.

Sarath, will you be interested?

-Krishna

--- Puneet Goel <puneet.maillist@gmail.com> wrote:

> what man!
> 
> no comments from your side ???
> 
> cheers!
> Puneet
> 
> On 5/10/05, Krishna Pagadala <krishnaact@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Fully agree with your suggestions.
> > I was thinking along the same lines. Since all
> > students are required to do some or the other
> > projects. I was thinking that we should try to
> > leverage that time. Especially we should try to
> > encourage CS engineering final year project to be
> free
> > software.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Krishna
> > 
> > 
> > --- Puneet Goel <puneet.maillist@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dear Nagarjun,
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing about
> > > https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/prc
> > >
> > > These folks seems to be doing the interesting
> work.
> > > appreciated. and
> > > the best thing is they started some 5 years
> back.
> > >
> > > For the last 2-3 days i have been discussing
> this
> > > info with some more
> > > folks and seeing the way this sarai list is
> going
> > > on. virtually
> > > scanned all the posts till date.
> > >
> > > Without undermining the purpose behind this
> list, if
> > > we look at the
> > > traffic generated at this place and the kind of
> > > discussion going on, I
> > > feel this is not going in the direction they
> should
> > > have excelled by
> > > now. And the reason is only one, the way they
> are
> > > going on. precisly
> > > their operating model. The place is not more
> than a
> > > maillist. Not too
> > > many people even know about it.
> > >
> > > and the sarai.net itself is in lot of other
> things.
> > > Particulary their
> > > 'About us' link says "Sarai: the New Media
> > > Initiative - a space for
> > > research, practice and conversation about the
> > > contemporary media and
> > > urban constellations."
> > >
> > > What i am talking is a whole-sole concentrated
> > > approach towards a goal
> > > and that too without any deviation. Not only
> this we
> > > have some more
> > > points which can be added gradualy.
> > >
> > > we have 2 options either we start on their
> portal
> > > etc. (but they might
> > > have their own reservations) or we start on our
> own
> > > with few more like
> > > minded people and take these guy's help, learn
> from
> > > their experiences.
> > >
> > > As Mr. Raghav said rightly "I agree with
> Nagarjuna's
> > > email that
> > > instead of coming up with new initiatives, it
> might
> > > be a good idea to
> > > leverage existing ones. Personally, I see a
> mailing
> > > list as only one
> > > part of the answer, and for that, we can
> definitely
> > > use the sarai.net
> > > mailing list. I think what we need to do is to
> come
> > > up with a
> > > comprehensive proposal and then take it to
> > > FSF-India, sarai.net,
> > > Sarovar and any others out there to see
> how/where
> > > they can help. There
> > > are lots of people on those forums whose
> experience
> > > will prove very
> > > valuable to us."
> > >
> > > rest sarover has been just a host for various
> > > projects. it is not
> > > relevent to what we r thinking of. yes! we can
> > > try/will to support it
> > > by hosting some of the projects there.
> > >
> > > but one thing is for sure. whatever we will do
> we
> > > shall be doing it in
> > > complete harmony with FSF India.
> > >
> > > let me know your comments.
> > >
> > > Thanks and Regards,
> > > Puneet
> > >
> > > Ps: I am looking forward to hear from more
> people on
> > > this. Please feel
> > > free to flame me if you think i am wrong at some
> > > point :)
> > >
> > > On 5/6/05, Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun@gnowledge.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 10:04:25AM -0600,
> Ragavan
> > > Srinivasan wrote:
> > > > > On 5/5/05, Puneet Goel
> > > <puneet.maillist@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Puneet,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please have a look at the link
> > > > > > http://www.communitycode.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > [snip...]
> > > > >
> > > > > I was just about to post a similar message
> to
> > > the list. I definitely
> > > > > share the sentiments, and think this could
> be a
> > > wonderful opportunity
> > > > > to help spread the awareness/usage of free
> and
> > > open source software in
> > > > > India.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think instead of targeting specific
> cities, we
> > > may want to start
> > > > > with specific communities of users. Folks
> > > working in the computer
> > > > > industry and the student community may be
> two we
> > > can target for
> > > > > starters.
> > > >
> > > > Instead of starting a new initiative, it is
> better
> > > to strengthen the
> > > > existing initiatives, such as
> > > > https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/prc,
> and
> > > sarovar.org.
> > > >
> > > > Nagarjuna
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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