[Fsf-friends] DVD Region-changing Restrictions
Sriharsha
sriharsha.v@redpinesignals.com
Wed Feb 2 22:45:53 IST 2005
Hello,
First of all, I would put that this is totally un-related to
FREE-SOFTWARE-FOUNDATION (fsf for short), and I did not understand why
you posted it here. If you were trying to enlighten people that the
region-restrictions exist on DVD's, thank you for the trouble, but the
fact is that, they have been so almost from the advent of the technology
and everyone knows about it. Still, if you are frustrated about it, you
got two options:
1. Upgrade your DVD's firmware using a hacked version (available on the
net). Dont forget to make a back-up copy, in case you screw up things,
you would need to restore it back to the original contents.
2. As long as you dont rip the hardware and break the seals, and present
the pc as you received it from the dealer (save a few scratches :-) ),
you need not worry about warranty. Unless, they have some extremely
superb mechanism, they would'nt know if you changed the firmware and
later re-loaded the original one. So, you are safe to play with it.
Afterall, "you follow all the rules, you miss all the fun".....
Im not sure if the above points would raise criticisms, but Im sick of
the support guys, who dont understand half of what you say and try
parrot-talk of a closely suitable answer that they have in-front of
their screens.
Or, if you are still scared abt your warranty, get yourself an external
DVD-ROM drive and hack its firmware.
This too (my reply) is definately off topic. So, I wouldnt elaborate
further.
Harsha.
Rakesh 'arky' Ambati wrote:
>Dear Friends,
>
>This article mentions mostly Apple devices,DVD region
>codes are really problem for people like me.Beware
>
>FYI
>--arky
>
>Tuesday, February 1, 2005
>Apple restricting DVD region-changes -- voluntarily!
>-- UPDATED
>
>http://www.boingboing.net/2005/02/01/apple_restricting_dv.html
>
>Apple's DVD players are subject to restrictive rules
>laid out by greedy Hollywood studios that don't really
>care if they piss off Apple's customers, since that's
>Apple's lookout. However, I've just discovered, to my
>amazement, that Apple imposes its very own
>restrictions on its DVD players over and above those
>imposed by the studios: that's right, Apple
>voluntarily treats its customers worse than the
>studios say it has to.
>
>In the crazy world of DRM for DVDs, there's this idea
>that a Hollywood studio should be able to tell you
>where you're allowed to watch a DVD after you buy it.
>They accomplish this with something called "Region
>Codes." Discs have region-codes and players have
>region-codes. If you have a Region 1 disc (US and
>Canada) and a Region 2 player (Europe), and you put
>the disc in the player, the player will reject it.
>
>But what happens when you take your laptop from New
>York to London? You're in Region 2, but you bought
>your device in Region 1. Can you buy a disc in London
>and play it on your computer?
>
>Yes and no. When a computer manufacturer gets a
>DVD-decoding license from Hollywood's licensing cartel
>(the DVD Copy Control Association or CCA), it is
>allowed to make players that can change regions up to
>five times.
>
>What's more, once the region-switches have run out,
>computer companies can reset your counter at a service
>depot a further five times. That means that you get 25
>region-switches. This sucks pretty bad: I moved from
>San Francisco to London with hundreds of Region 1 DVDs
>and now when I buy a movie in the shop, it's Region 2.
>That means that if I watch a movie from my US
>collection once a week, and once from my UK connection
>the next week, I'll run out of region switches in
>three months. Three months after moving to the UK,
>I'll have to throw out half my DVDs.
>
>So, basically, I don't watch my DVDs. Sometimes,
>though, I'm weak, and I tune into one and squander one
>of my precious region switches. Now my nearly-new
>Powerbook has only one switch left out of its initial
>five, and so I brought it to Apple to get them to
>reset the counter. It needed service anyway (I'm on my
>fifth or sixth screen replacement for the defect in
>the 15" machines that causes the "white blobs" to
>obscure the display), so it seemed like a good time to
>do it.
>
>I know that Apple is allowed to do this. How do I
>know? Well, when EFF went to the Copyright Office and
>asked it to give us an exemption to the DMCA to make
>tools for watching out-of-region DVDs, Time-Warner
>showed up and told us this:
>
> "And, the way it works, and I apologize because
>it's a little bit complicated, the consumer can set it
>five times. After the fifth time that they've reset
>it, they do have an ability to reset it again, but
>they have to bring the drive to an authorized dealer
>or an authorized service representative, who can then
>authorize an additional set of five changes, and then
>they can bring it back for a second, for a third,
>fourth and fifth set of authorized changes. So you can
>change it 25 times in total, but you have to go back
>for each set of five. You only get the first five when
>you buy the ROM drive itself."
>
>That was Dean Marks, from AOL Time Warner. Straight
>from the horse's mouth, testifying to the US
>government.
>
>But when my Powerbook was ready for pickup, Apple left
>me a voicemail saying that they couldn't reset my DVD
>player, that doing so would void my warranty.
>
>When I went into the Apple Store in London to get the
>machine, I asked about it. I wanted this in writing:
>if they had a policy that said that they couldn't fix
>my region-counter, I wanted to be able to tell Dean
>Marks about it the next time we went to the Copyright
>Office and ask him why Apple thought it couldn't reset
>my counter.
>
>Apple refused to put it into writing. They refused to
>let me record them telling me they couldn't fix my
>Powerbook. They wouldn't even put in writing that they
>were referring me to the legal department. Eventually
>I spoke to the manager, who promised to get back to me
>the next day.
>
>The next day, he did. He told me that he'd spoken to
>legal and that they wouldn't put anything in writing.
>However, they did have some documents on their website
>they printed for me that talk about DVDs.
>
> 1. DVD Player: About DVD-Video Regions, last
>modified July 16, 2004, technical contributor J Scalo.
>This document describes the different regions, saying
>that after five region-switches, "the drive is
>permanently set to use that region, and you cannot
>make any more changes."
>
> Interestingly, this also contains something
>labeled APPLE EYES ONLY that says that
>
> On Wallstreet and PDQ (PowerBook G3 Series
>M4753), the number of region code changes remaining is
>not stored in the firmware of the DVD drive but rather
>in the DVD extension and NVRAM. This information
>should absolutely not be conveyed to the customer.
>
> In extreme customer satisfaction situations
>you can reset the region change count by following
>this procedure:
> 1. Reset PRAM/NVRAM by pressing
>Fn-Ctrl-Shift-Power while the computer is turned off
> 2. Startup with system extensions off.
> 3. Restart with system extensions on.
> Note: This procedure resets some of the
>customer's custom settings.
>
> After following this procedure, the region
>change count for the drive is reset to five.
>
> In later PowerBook models, the region count
>is stored in the firmware of the drive and cannot be
>reset with this procedure.
>
> 2. Changing the region code of your DVD drive, last
>modified on January 23, 2004. This document says that
>you can only change your region code five times.
>"After that, the region code is set permanently and
>you cannot change it."
>
>So there's two things going on here that I'm pretty
>pissed off about:
>
> 1. The studios have screwed the electronics
>companies with this region code business and I have to
>throw out my DVDs or buy an extra Powerbook or
>something
> 2. Worse, though: Apple has a policy about
>region-changing that is more restrictive than it has
>to be: they're playing for the other side. This really
>stinks and makes me wonder why I should keep on buying
>Apple hardware.
>
>Lots of Apple execs read Boing Boing. If you have a
>reply on this, email me and I'll be happy to discuss
>it with you.
>
>Update: Many of you have written to point out that VLC
>plays out of region DVDs on a Powerbook. That's nice,
>but it doesn't work reliably on my Powerbook.
>
>Update 2: Thanks for all the tips on how to hack my
>Powerbook or change its firmware. I'm afraid that I'm
>not in the market for this, though, tempting as it is,
>as I've been informed that using these tools will void
>my warranty.
>
>posted by Cory Doctorow at 03:46:39 AM permalink |
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