[Fsf-friends] Freedom to write good software! From Freedom to Free software!

Tarun Gaur gaur_tarun@hotmail.com
Thu Apr 29 13:07:04 IST 2004


Dear Rishi,

===========================================
We regard
non-free software as a problem to be solved, not as a solution to any
problem.
===========================================
This is the last line from the FSF-India philosophy that you sent; just 
thought of sending it back. I am focussing on how to help Mr. Ram. I repeat 
philosophies are duds if not implemented.

I am just doing what i think is right. I just try to look at what is left to 
be done and gain some insight from end user experience and then focus on 
helping others do it.

Thats about it. Nothing more nothing less.

regards,
tarun






>
>Where did you even assume that was part of the deal? As reagards what FSF 
>is
>committed to promote .... please read the following text... I've copied and
>pasted it from the FSF-India website.
>
>=============================================================
>FSF India is a non-profit organisation committed to advocating, promoting 
>and
>propagating the use and development of swatantra software in India. Our 
>goal
>is to ensure the long term adoption of free software, and aim for the day
>when all software will be free. This includes educating people about 
>software
>freedom and convincing them that it is the freedom that matters. We regard
>non-free software as a problem to be solved, not as a solution to any
>problem.
>=============================================================
>
>If you or Mr. Reddy want the Mandrake distro to have a "Rich User 
>Experience"
>please use the link below.
>http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/contact/feedback
>
>
> > So you mean to say that if the software come for FREE I should not 
>expect
> > it to be good. What a foundation "WE" (FSF evangalists) are laying down 
>for
> > others to follow.
>
>Again...if you are referring to the Mandrake Distro, refer to the link
>mentinoed above.
>
>If not, get specific as to which particular free software you are talk 
>about
>not being 'good' enough for Mr. Reddy. I'm sure there is a forum out there
>that would be happy to hear yours or Mr. Reddy's feedback on how it can be
>better.
>
> > Let me remind you I am not talking about "you", the IT guy. I am talking
> > about the end user for whom computers is a tool to do his work. And 
>trust
> > me he values "RICH USER EXPERIECE" more than getting a free software. IS
> > THIS WHAT YOU CALL FREEDOM?
>
>
>Freedom in Free software is not about price. See the following link to
>understand what free software means.
>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
>
>And thank you for finally making my point. He (Mr. Reddy) obviously values
>"rich user experience" more than "freedom".
>
>What do you value more? "freedom" or "rich user experience"?
>
>I hope you value freedom more than software that should have "rich user
>experience" ... If you do, great. Please try and talk Mr. Reddy into
>attending a speech of RMS so that he could possibly moved into considering
>valuing "freedom" more than "rich user experience".
>
>For the time being you could download this Video of RMS as it's pretty 
>good.
>
>http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/rms-speech-curitiba.mpg
>
>It's about 30 minutes and 55 MB in size.
>
>This may help bring the focus on freedom instead of Rich User Experience.
>
>I'd be happy to courier you and Mr. Reddy the CD if you like. Just give me
>your address. I think there is a copy of this video on this month's LFY
>mangazine too.
>
>
> > FREEDOM for who? You or the MASSES? I repeat lets move from 
>"PHILOSOPHICAL
> > MINORITY" to "MASS MAJORITY" and for masses your so called "SHALLOW" 
>user
> > experience matters.
>
>
>Once again... please target the disappointments of user experiences of the
>software to the Mandrake Company and not FSF.
>
> > Windows market share is a testimony to this SHALLOW concept.
>
>Sure, that's because lots of people have had no choice but to pay up huge
>dollars (or not) to use it. ;-)
>
> > I remind you again ... i am not decrying linux .... of FSF. I am myself 
>a
> > strong supporter and have followed linux from its nacence.
>
>
>As I mentioned in my ealier mail, I was using what I called 'Linux' since
>1996, but got to realize the funda of freedom only in 2001 after attending 
>an
>RMS speech.
>
>Have you ever attended one of those?
>
>If not you should...
>
>
> > Anyways, its been great interacting with you .. no point in dragging 
>this
> > any further, i dont think we are going anywhere with this. Lets agree to
> > disagree.
>
>
>It's been great interacting with you too.... However, you keep wanting to 
>make
>your point, which I'm still struggling and wanting to understand, but at 
>the
>same time you want to end the discussion by 'agreeing to disagree'....
>
>I truely hope to succeed in communicating this funda of freedom to you and 
>Mr.
>Reddy.
>
>Regards
>
>Rishi
>

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