[Fsf-friends] Fwd: [fsug-calicut] Some thing to reply..

V. Sasi Kumar vsasi@vsnl.com
07 Nov 2002 17:45:35 +0530


An appropriate response is being prepared, which, hopefully, would
appear in the next issue.

V. Sasi Kumar

On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 12:09, baiju wrote:
> Forwarding from FSUG-Kozhikode list.
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> Baiju M
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> Subject: [fsug-calicut] Some thing to reply..
> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:03:53 +0530
> From: "Jaisen.N.D." <jaisu_vyas@rediffmail.com>
> To: fsug-calicut@freelists.org
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>  Hai,
> 
>    Have any one seen the month's Sasthragathi? Not yet? Then please get
> it.. It have an article by K.Anvar Sadath and T.P.Sudhakaran, working in
> Information Kerala Mission. They tries to justify the Microsoft - based
> foundation of the project.
> 
>    They point out:
> 
>   - Software development is not a mental effort of only the programmers
> involved, but, it is a user - based effort in a human centered thought.
> So, the training of users, and the efforts which enable the users to use
> the technology have more importance.
> 
>   > I agree with it. Me too was a volenteer in IKM's OIK project (to
> 
> computerise the panchayat election counting centers in 2000.) which was
> a big flop.
> 
>   - It is a business strategy to raise a particular technology as a
> solution for all type of issues.
> 
>   > They says that, the fsf movement and all the efforts of volenteers
> 
> all over the world are simply a business trick. Should I say something?
> 
>   - Application of technology has many expenses.. They include
> 
>              - direct expenses
>              - non-direct expenses
>              - invisible expenses
>              - short term expenses
>              - long term expenses etc.
> 
>      so a technology should be chosen considering all these things equally.
> 
>   > Me too agree. Is the GNU more expensive than MS based things
> 
> considering all these? Sounds interesting..
> 
>   - To surrender to the greatness of a particular type of technology,
> and tolerate with it's dominance is not scientific.
> 
>   > Here goes all the waters out.. Who are surrendering?
> 
>   - Unix is not developed for ordinary users. So the Unix is unreachable
> for ordinary users and it is the main drawback of Unix....... All the
> capabilities and drawbacks are common for all the OSs like Linux which
> are included in Unix family..... Unix and Linux are for the expert users
> who are working in powerful computers..
> 
>   > It is true that Unix was not developed for common users. But the
> 
> train is running.. There was a time, which there were no GUIs for Unix
> and it's clones. But now situation is different. Almost all the
> distributions of Linux comes with a very user-friendly GUI which are
> equally or more better than any other available in the market.
> 
>   - Total Cost Ownership ( TCO ) includes the expenses of
> administration, training, technical assistance, other services as well
> as cost of software...... Open Source code doesn't win the market
> because, it feels costly in the observations based on TCO.
> 
>   > Is it? Where is the Survey / Study reports?
> 
>   - Windows has a simple and easy GUI..
> 
>   > Linux has more than one simple and easy Desktop environments..
> 
>   - Technical assistance for Linux is limited. Big Projects can't go
> depending on volenteering help services.
> 
>   > Then how the govt. projects of many countries of the world like
> 
> China or Brazil goes?
> 
>   - Open Source is only a business trick to get dominance in the market
> using some values..
> 
>   - RMS is neither tries to connect the bad effects of patents and
> copyrights with capitalistic authority and it's values ...
> 
>   - Inside the framework of Capitalism, no any future for humanity,
> equality, or honesty in long-terms through FSF.
> 
>   - C-Dit gets Microsoft products in discount rates.. after the
> agreement with them.
> 
>   - The agreement is not a new thing. National Informatic Centre and
> many State Govt agencies have experience in these type of agreements.
> 
>   > I know that The Mail server of NIC for the students and teachers
> 
> (http://edumail.nic.in) Runs on Microsoft's Outlook Express. But is it a
> model to imitate?
> 
> 
> ............... and a lot. What u think? Can't we reply?
> 
> -jaisen.
> 
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